Show Notes

Ever wondered if vegans really just live on a diet of “rabbit food”? This week, we’re plucking apart the misconceptions surrounding veganism. We’ll also squash the protein deficiency scare, reassuring you that with a dash of insight and a sprinkle of planning, building muscle on a plant-based diet isn’t just possible, it’s been done by many vegan athletes.

Hold onto your aprons as we stir the pot on the quality of plant-based proteins, proving they’re anything but incomplete. We serve up facts on how to create a well-rounded amino acid profile with mouthwatering vegan foods, and when essential amino acid supplements might come in handy.

Referenced in episode
Great Vegan Athletes
High Protein Chocolate Strawberry Cheesecake

Full Podcast Transcription

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Hi, welcome to the VeGAINS Fitness and Nutrition podcast. This is episode ten. I’m the muscle deficient vegan here with the protein deficient vegan. You want to say hi?

Protein Deficient Vegan: Hi.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Hi.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: So this week we’re going to talk about vegan myths, misconceptions, hesitations you might have when trying to go vegan. It’s still Veganuary. So a lot of people are still, you know, poking around trying to understand what it maybe means to go vegan or maybe switch to a plant-based diet. So I think a lot of these things are probably things that people think about or hear, maybe if they talk to people about being a vegan. So we’re going to try to tackle some of these and have a little bit of a conversation about them.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah, it might even be good if you are trying out Veganuary and you’re getting a lot of these.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: So jumping right in. The first thing we have is the myth that all vegans eat is rabbit food. So there’s a big misconception that a lot of vegans basically just eat like salads, literally bowls of lettuce for whatever reason, maybe just vegetables. But everybody needs actual protein in their diet, even if they’re not doing a high protein diet. So a lot of the sources are really going to be things like beans and lentils for the common ones. But our style is to kind of do the more high protein stuff like tofu and seitan.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: And this is a big problem. Like if you’re going out with friends and they’re picking restaurants that only have maybe one vegan option, and that vegan option is just a salad, you kind of run into it at work functions and stuff, too. For some reason, people don’t seem to understand. Like, just because I’m vegan doesn’t mean I don’t also need things other than lettuce.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah, a lot of the times the vegan option is just take everything off that’s not the lettuce and vegetables and it’s not very helpful for anybody. Really.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: It’s actually pretty wild because at work a couple of years ago, we were doing strike coverage, so we were probably going to get locked in. And so the preparations were happening and they were sending out the menu of like, here’s what you can expect since you can’t leave for two entire weeks. And I was like, there aren’t vegan options. What is the vegan option? And I hear back that, oh, well, the vegan option is going to be a bowl of mixed greens for lunch and dinner. But you would need to bring your own dressing. I had no words.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah, that’s very generous to let you pick your own dressing.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah, I know I can bring my own dressing. It was wild. So I started stocking peanut butter. Do you remember that? Yeah, I was like stockpiling peanut butter.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: And like, if we knew then what we know now, you probably could have made some high protein dressing for that.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah, I could have, but it would have only lasted like four days because it has tofu.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Still not ideal.

Protein Deficient Vegan: It was pretty nuts.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: But anyway, most vegans, even vegetarians, not a big fan of the bowls of lettuce and other things that are considered rabbit food, that’s not really how we eat.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah, I don’t even consider that like a vegan option. Like, if someone asks me to go somewhere and that’s the vegan option on the menu, unless I really want to hang out with you, I’m probably not going to go.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: All right, so next up on the list, vegans are protein deficient. So being as we’re here with the protein deficient vegan, we’ve obviously got some opinions on this. Actual protein deficiency that makes you actually sick is super rare. It’s not even a common vegan problem. There are some people who can run into it if they go into what we were just talking about and maybe make a switch to eating a bunch of rabbit food for some reason, because they don’t really.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Or like a lot of junk food.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: A lot of junk food, too. But to be healthy, like, the actual dietary minimum to not get sick is a very low protein percentage, which is not really a concern.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Like 10% maybe. It’s really low. I mean, people are hitting this without even trying.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: If you eat anything, like anything really, even plants have protein to a certain degree. But if you’re not trying to lose a bunch of weight by just eating lettuce, this is probably not something you’re going to run into.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah. Or junk food.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Right.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: But it is a little hard. Like if you are trying to build muscle and trying to hit those protein targets, it can be a little more challenging, but it is definitely not unachievable by any means.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: And I think this is a pretty clear argument against this is there are plenty of vegan athletes and even bodybuilders. So I mean, obviously there are a million ways to get vegan protein, and that’s one of the things we specialize in with our recipes is how to do that.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Go check them out.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Go check them out for sure. But there’s just protein and so much stuff. This is not really a real thing. Next up, the myth that vegans can’t get all their nutrients and they live on supplements.

Protein Deficient Vegan: I’ve been hearing this a lot.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: And a thing about a lot of these myths is there’s a little bit of truth in some of them. Like the protein thing comes from the fact that there are some protein quality issues, but they don’t really end up being relevant to just be healthy. The nutrients thing, there is one nutrient we can’t really get, which is vitamin B12.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Right. But that’s not naturally occurring in animal products either. It’s more of a modern agriculture issue.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: And we do have to take a supplement for that as far as everything else.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Or eat nooch.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Or eat nooch. Yeah, I mean that’s fortified. A lot of fortified stuff. We do have to kind of be aware of it though. So while we don’t need to supplement things, there are some things that are a little less available on a vegan diet, but they’re usually not to the point where you end up with any kind of actual deficiency. As long as you’re eating a wide variety of foods on either a vegan diet or even like the standard american omnivore type diet. If you eat the same couple of things over and over or you just eat junk food, you’re going to run into vitamin nutrient type deficiencies anyway. I mean, it’s not like people who eat animal products never have nutrient deficiencies. I mean, I know back before I was vegan I ran into vitamin D issues. I even ran into B12 issues at some random points in my life. They weren’t serious, but I was definitely on the low end on blood tests and things like that at random times.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: So yeah, a wide variety of whole foods is the best way on any diet to get your vitamins and nutrients that you need. You can’t replace the taste of meat and dairy products. I guess that’s not really a myth.

Protein Deficient Vegan: But I think people think it’s a lot bigger deal than it actually is.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: I think that’s the best way to put it. Meat and dairy doesn’t really need to be replaced. It’s just kind of another ingredient that you use.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah, I think definitely meat is like you can replicate that with anything as long as you’re seasoning well and you’re marinating stuff well. I don’t really think you miss that. Dairy was a concern for me before I went vegan. I was a little worried I was going to miss it. But there are a lot of great options out there now for dairy substitutions if you want to use those. And also once you haven’t eaten it for a while, I don’t miss it any. I don’t even think about it.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah, you think of meat as like the central part of the meal, but I mean, really, when you really think about it and you start eating things that don’t have meat, you realize it was just kind of like the chewy textured part of the meal. And there are a lot of things that you can do that with tofu.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Right, seitan. Seitan is amazing, right? Yeah, seitan is kind of like, fills that gap immediately.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: I mean, definitely if you feel the need to replace that part of your plate with something kind of similar, seitan is a great option.

Protein Deficient Vegan: And there are a lot of meat substitutes, too, that work really well.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: There are a lot of different ingredients, thousands probably, of different ingredients out there that have all their own flavors. Meat and dairy are really just a handful of ingredients. So you’re not really going to miss those nearly as much as you think when you have all these other options to eat food.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Maybe a little bit hard the first few months, maybe even the first year, but you learn how to cook around it and you don’t need it.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: And I would even argue a lot of that in the first few months is just learning what to eat instead. Like, you’re just a habit kind of thing, really. Actually missing the taste.

Protein Deficient Vegan: It breaks your brain a little bit.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: And again, if you really like those things a lot and you want to maybe help the transition, there are a lot of great straight up substitutions. I got beyond and impossible for meat and a million different vegan cheeses. It’s hard to even miss cheese with all the cheese options out there.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: And they’re actually good nowadays.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: All right, next up, vegans are all weak and frail. This one is just obviously not true. Again, going back to vegan athletes, vegan bodybuilders, and these aren’t like amateurs. There are professional athletes, professional bodybuilders, professional strong men, even, that are completely vegan. There’s actually a website, greatveganathletes.com, where you can go to it and just look at list of vegan athletes at the highest level in a bunch of different sports. And that was one of the things I got from the Game Changers movie. There’s a lot of argument about the scientific details or whatever of the Game Changers movie, but for me, it was just the realization that people could be at the top of their sport and be vegan. For me, that was enough to just know, like, oh, well, that’s possible. Why would I even need to bother with not being vegan?

Protein Deficient Vegan: Do you know what I got from game changers?

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Oh, wow. All right, what do you get from game Changers?

Protein Deficient Vegan: Apparently vegan erections are way better. That’s what I got. There was like a whole segment on it.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: If you’re looking for that kind of motivation, it’s definitely worth a try.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Vegetables, the new Viagra.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: That’s what they say.

Protein Deficient Vegan: That’s what they say.

Protein Deficient Vegan: That’s pretty much the game changers tagline, I think.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: I think that’s going to be the vegan version of the Got Milk campaign. Next up, plant protein isn’t complete and isn’t as good as animal protein. Again, we come back to a little bit of truth in the kind of myth here, because this is technically true. A lot of plant proteins aren’t what they would consider complete. And the quality as far as the amino acid profile is a little less than animal proteins, but a lot of the time it doesn’t actually end up mattering for practical purposes.

Protein Deficient Vegan: You know why that is, though, right?

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Why is that?

Protein Deficient Vegan: Okay, so basically what I read is, like, needs, like. So basically, if you wanted the best protein, you’d be a cannibal, right? You’d eat human meat to get, like, a full, complete protein, because humans are eating the full, complete protein, so their bodies are made up of the full, complete protein. And that’s the same for animals. Animals are eating all these vegetables, or like, grains, whatever, that make up complete proteins in their body. And that’s what you would be eating if you were eating animals. So you just need to eat better, and then you’ll have complete proteins with non animal products, or you can be a cannibal.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: We need to see some studies on cannibalism, protein efficiency, for sure.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: For one, all plant foods and really all foods that have protein actually have all 20 amino acids. So everything has all the amino acids. Complete protein really just means, does it have a high enough percentage threshold of each of those amino acids to meet basically a predetermined number? So there are a lot of things. For an example, seitan is not considered a complete protein, but it’s only because it’s lacking in one amino acid, which is lysine. So it’s got everything else it needs. It just is a little lacking on lysine. Lysine, though, comes in beans and tofu and lentils and all kinds of other stuff. So basically, if you eat soy and you also eat seitan, you’re going to get that lysine anyway. So it doesn’t really matter that there is not the lysine in seitan.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Right.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: So you don’t have to get all the amino acids at once. You don’t even have to necessarily combine those foods at the same time. It’s just throughout the days and weeks your body needs to have all, especially the essential amino acids available to it. And so eating, again, a variety of foods will get you this total big picture complete protein profile, even if the individual foods technically don’t qualify as complete proteins.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah, you can think of it like an amino acid pool party in your body. They just all chill out until your body’s ready to take them all together.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: I like that.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: That’s good.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: A pool party.

Protein Deficient Vegan: A little pool party, yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: But if you are interested in single source complete proteins on a vegan diet, soy and quinoa are on their own complete proteins and buckwheat.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Although I’ve never used buckwheat. Don’t know what to do with buckwheat.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: I think I’ve had buckwheat pancakes.

Protein Deficient Vegan: I have too. I think they had them at home to sweets back when I was a vegetarian.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Oh, and also, one more thing. Even if you only ate seitan, and seitan was lacking in lysine on a percentage basis, if you were in a caloric surplus and you just ate a whole lot of seitan, you would still get a lot of lysine. You just wouldn’t get maybe as much as is optimal to build muscle if you were eating sources that also contained those amino acids that it’s missing.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: And another thing you can do is EAAs, right? Isn’t that like, the whole point?

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: An EAA supplement has all the essential amino acids in there in a pretty high quantity. So if you’re worried that maybe you’re eating the same thing over and over, like, if you do eat a bunch of seitan, you can take a supplement like that and you would know, okay, I’m getting some lysine from somewhere for sure. And it just helps increase the diversity of your amino acid pool party.

Protein Deficient Vegan: And they come in fun flavors.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah, there are a lot of good flavors. I like all the sour ones. A lot of the eaas come in like the sour watermelon, sour lemonade flavors. All right, next myth. Being vegan is hard. Now, would you say being vegan is hard?

Protein Deficient Vegan: In some ways, yes. Socially, yes. But I am pretty introverted, so I actually find it to be kind of helpful.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah, the social stuff doesn’t really bother me, but the convenience factor is. I think I would qualify that as hard. But actually being vegan isn’t really that bad. I mean, there’s a lot of snacks and stuff, even if you want that we can eat here and get from the grocery store a lot of vegan stuff. But if you’re just like, man, I don’t have anything in the house, I don’t really feel like cooking. Trying to just go somewhere and get high quality vegan food is really difficult unless you’re in the middle of a big city.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Right. Like our natural gas went out last week and so we couldn’t cook. And yeah, pretty limited options. We just had to do what, hummus and falafel? That’s pretty much all we had that was a vegan option near us.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: So, yeah, for sure, that part does suck.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah, it takes a little bit of extra planning, even in the best of circumstances, to eat healthily. But honestly, even if you’re not a vegan, it takes extra planning to eat healthily.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Right.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: And I don’t feel like that there’s really much of a difference. It’s still the same kind of thing. You cook your own food, you try not to eat out very much. And in our case, we just don’t have the option to eat out very much. So that kind of makes it a little easier.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: I mean, if you were going to be a junk food vegan, you could eat nothing but oreos and it would be just as convenient as being a junk food omnivore. So, yeah, trying to do it healthy is always going to take more time.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Right. Plus, there are a ton of vegan recipe sites out there. vegainsfitness.com is one of them.

Protein Deficient Vegan: You should really go check that out.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: But out there, there are lots of easy, delicious, even quick recipes that you can make. Even with vegan ingredients. It’s the same as cooking with non vegan ingredients. Really?

Protein Deficient Vegan: Oh, for sure. Honestly, one of our go to’s is just that Alfredo with the tofu sauce and that takes like 15 minutes. And it is super healthy, super high on protein, really easy to make. And I think it tastes really great.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: And it’s definitely not any harder than making a non vegan pasta. It’s the same process.

Protein Deficient Vegan: I think it’s actually easier because you’re blending tofu. No, that’s true in a lot of ways. Some of this stuff can be easier because you’re just blending shit where you’d normally be, like making a roux or whatever.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Okay, so next up is being vegan is expensive. If you’re eating whole foods like we tried to do to be healthy, it is obviously a little more expensive than normal commodity food.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Oh, yeah. I mean, it’s definitely more expensive than eating 2000 calories a day in Doritos.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah. Right. Yeah. But I think even if you’re not vegan and you’re trying to eat healthy whole foods, the prices are really similar. I haven’t noticed anything that’s really egregiously more expensive on the vegan side.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah, I mean, if you are really sticking to a lot of meat and dairy substitutes, it is going to get expensive. Like very expensive.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: The meat replacements are very expensive.

Protein Deficient Vegan: The dairy ones can be too, like those specialty products. But I mean, honestly, you got to learn how to cook. You need to learn how to cook and you need to not rely on those. And if you’re not relying on those, it’s not, in my opinion, any more expensive than an omnivore diet.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah, I mean, we’ve got a lot of big staples in like oats, TVP, beans and rice. And those things are all notoriously very low priced.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Wheat gluten flour is pretty cheap. You can make satan yourself. Satan yourself.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah. And the plant milks are kind of the same price range as like the premium dairy milks. I mean, it’s definitely not going to be as cheap as the store brand.

Protein Deficient Vegan: And I think even on the non dairy milks, you can make those yourself without having a cow in your house. So that’s exciting. You can milk the almonds with your own hands, get those little almond teeth and milk them. I have nipples, Greg. Can you milk me?

Muscle Deficient Vegan: All right.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Okay. Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: The last kind of thing you might hear, and it does kind of fall more towards the myth side, is people say either, like, I could never eat vegan food or I’ve never eaten vegan food before. Well, okay, so you definitely have, right? Some popular ones. Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, baked potatoes, oreos, every vegetable you’ve ever eaten. I mean, unless it was cooked in butter or something. Right. Movie theater popcorn is usually vegan. I mean, you are definitely eating vegan food all the time.

Protein Deficient Vegan: All the time.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: And that’s because vegan food is not special food. It’s just the food that doesn’t include the animal products like meat and stuff.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: So I mean to say you could never eat the vegan food or you’ve never eaten vegan food. You’re eating it all the time. Even if you don’t really think about it like that.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: This one’s always been extra funny to me because you get this a lot. Like, I could never eat vegan. And it’s like, you probably ate vegan yesterday.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: The only special food we have is really, like, soy stuff, like tofu. And I’m not even really sure why that is associated with vegains specifically, because anybody could eat tofu or soy or.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Anything and not even could.

Protein Deficient Vegan: They.

Protein Deficient Vegan: They should. Because honestly, the macros are amazing. Everyone should be using that silken tofu.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: I mean, there are so many things. If I would have known how good silken tofu was for things.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Or TVP.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Or TVP. You could just put it in so much stuff and there’s not really a food like that. That’s not those things. So I’m not really sure how soy got pigeonholed into being a vegan and vegetarian thing instead of just another protein option for everybody.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Right. Like another protein tool.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: I think omnivores need to pick up on tofu and TVP because they are missing out. Like, it is pretty handy in the kitchen for sure.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: All right, so we hope that helps you kind of have some conversations about veganism or maybe even think through some hesitations you were having or just generally any questions you might have. All right, so we’ve got a couple of recipes coming out, so we’re going to talk about those a little bit. The first one we made that’s really good, and you can see it on the website, is the strawberry cheesecake.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: It’s a strawberry chocolate cheesecake.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah, chocolate. Right.

Protein Deficient Vegan: It’d be really good for Valentine’s Day. Hint, hint. Maybe you should make it for me.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: So this was really super good. And it has actual chunks of whole strawberry in there. It’s not just like some weird strawberry flavoring or anything. So it’s got the streaks, you can see it looks really pretty and red. And obviously it tastes awesome.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: And it’s got a chocolate TVP crust and the filling is made out of silken tofu.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah. Also the. Did we mention chocolate strawberry cheesecake is 32% protein.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Right.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: These cheesecakes are getting better every time. I don’t really understand how you keep doing it, but really happy. All right, next up, we made a nice fajita bowl. So you want to talk about that a little bit?

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: So we used seasoned TVP as, like, the rice that you put it on for extra protein and then black beans and then some sauteed green peppers, mushrooms, onions, and like, a little sprinkling of vegan cheese. And I thought it turned out really well.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah, no, I’m hungry. Thank you for that.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah, it was really easy to make too. Like, super quick.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah, that was really good. You could probably meal prep, something like that.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Oh, yeah, for sure.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: You can put another one, obviously, with fajita bowls, you can do whatever. You can eat it with chips. Put it in a burrito, put it in a taco, eat it just straight out of the bowl.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Depending on your calories for the day.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Could put in a tortilla. It’d be pretty good in a tortilla.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: And then the last one we had were some banana nut TVP muffins.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Dude, we just made those this morning and I thought they were pretty good.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah, I think they’re probably the best. We’ve got a couple of these TVP muffins so far. I think this is the best form of that so far. The banana is really good flavor in these.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah, it’s a really good, strong flavor. Can’t even tell there’s TVP. Kind of tastes like oatmeal.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Or like my friend said, it kind of feels like a muffin meets, like, one of those oatmeal no bake cookies. And I think that’s a pretty good description.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Yeah.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: And they’re not necessarily high protein. I think they’re like 18% or something. But they have a decent amount of protein and it doesn’t compromise on the flavor or anything like adding some protein powder would. So, I mean, best of both worlds, in my opinion.

Protein Deficient Vegan: Yeah, I agree.

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Okay, so that’s what we have on the recipe front, and I think that is it for this week. Next week we’ll be back with another topic to carry you through veganuary. And as always, if you have any questions, feel free to reach out to us on the website. You can leave comments, reach out to us on social media, or you can just email us and you can find all that information in the show notes. So I think that’s it. And I hope everybody has a good week. Do you want to say bye?

Protein Deficient Vegan: Bye!

Muscle Deficient Vegan: Bye, everybody.

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